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Quite a few of the many journalists that have contacted me these last few days, have asked me how the extreme right scene that I’ve been following for years has reacted to the terror bombing in Oslo. I’ve answered as best I could, but with this blog post, I would like to give a more thorough insight. It’s an insight into a quite frightening world.

I’ve therefore collected a few of the reactions that came, both immediately – i.e. as the news of the bombing in Oslo reached the world, and after it was revealed that the terrorist was a right-wing extremist sharing most of their own beliefs. Journalists should feel free to use this as a resource in their further research. Obviously, I have only been visiting a few blog, and rather at random, starting at the blogroll of Gates of Vienna; a central blog in the world of “counter-jihadism”, and a blog where Fjordman – which the blogger describes as his favourite author – is an active contributor. The quoted blogs are written in various languages, and the quotes are left in their original language. More examples can easily be found by any journalist or researcher who takes the time to dig.

Let’s start with Gates of Vienna itself, the blog was liveblogging the terrorist attacks, as news came in. While their original post does note that the “source of the blast in unclear”, commenters on the site quickly concluded who had to be behind it, namely Islamist terrorists. Commenters on the site left comments such as these:

They should thank them for all the cultural enrichment!

Europe has been infested with venomous parasitic vermin. [linking to a list of Islamist terrorist attacks]

The TV news report here shows the interview of a Norwegian witness. I did not know Norwegians looked like Arabs.

Fjordman is also active in this debate and answers the last of those comments, in the following way:

In Oslo they do. Arabs, Kurds, Pakistanis, Somalis, you name it. Anything and everything is fine as long as they rape the natives and destroy the country, which they do.

In the post itself, he is quoted the following way:

“Please keep in mind that the left-wing government of Jens Stoltenberg that was just bombed is the most dhimmi appeasing of all Western governments, to the extent that this is humanly possible. They even wanted to fund Hamas openly a while ago. “The most suicidal and cowardly government in a country with no colonial history was just attacked. How do you explain that as a response to Western ‘aggression’?”

This is in itself an interesting comment. The word dhimmi is taken from Islamic teachings, and is used as a sort of codeword in the counterjihadi movement, their variant of the Neo-Nazi term ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government). Here, Fjordman says that prime minister Stoltenberg is essentially some sort of vassal to (the evil) Muslim overrule. Further comments at Gates of Vienna:

This was inevitable. Only a matter of time before other European nations get a taste of their multicultural tolerance that they’ve been cooking for decades.

Here is the report (in Norwegian) from the workshop at the Utøya summer Socialist youth camp on “Combating Xenophobia and Islamophobia.” Wow… talk about irony. I wonder if this experience may have an altering affect on the world views on some of the youth fortunate enough to survive?

The massacre at the children’s camp is a sickening reminder of just how evil and Satanic the cult of Islam is. The attack is reminiscent of the massacre at the Russian school, though in this case without the pedophile rapes and enforced urine drinking.

Later, of course, it was revealed that the terrorist was not at all a Muslim, but a right-wing extremist inspired by the counterjihadists himself. The comment field on this post becomes very silent. Then, as we already know, Fjordman has eagerly tried to distance himself from the man he inspired. This is highly understandable, but it is worth noting that the terrorist had the exactly same ideas on Jens Stoltenberg and his dhimmitude as Fjordman put forth in one of the above comments, that Fjordman’s essays make up a very considerable part of the terrorist’s cut-and-paste-manifesto, and that Fjordman has indeed discussed with the perpetrator on document.no, in a discussion where Fjordman, not the terrorist, put forth the most obviously extreme rhetoric (see my previous blogpost in Norwegian).

Gates of Vienna has also tried to explain the focus on Fjordman and other leading “counterjihadists” as a “double standard”, and seems to believe that the fact that the mass murderer mentions the TV series Dexter twice in his manifesto, a couple of lines in total, is just as good a reason to point at that TV series as the fact that much of the manifesto is made up by Fjordman’s works is a reason pointing at him. Well, I don’t think they actually believe so. But it’s a handy excuse, I suppose. I do wonder how GoV would have related to such a claim from a radical imam after someone from his mosque had carried a violent attack.

No, let’s roll on to 1389 blog (the number refers to the Battle of Kosovo in 1389), who have been trying to explain a whole lot of things away these last few days, mostly through pointing at other blogs. Here we can learn that the Labour Party Youth summer camp at Utøya was not a children’s camp, but rather a camp of young adults. I do not really see the point, and it feels quite unnecessary to point out that many of the victims were minor. 1389 also considers it important to point out that the Labour Party Youth had a boycott Israel-”rally”. Once again, in spite of thinking that the idea of a boycott against Israel is terribly misguided, I do not really see the relevance. Is 1389 trying to say that the terrorism wasn’t that bad, then? 1389 quotes another blog:

After reading this lunatic’s manifesto, it became clear why he attacked this youth center. It was a Leftist indoctrination camp.

Let’s head on to that very blog, the group blog named Blogmocracy, and see how they interpreted the bombing attack in Oslo when it happened. They wrote:

The Norwegian government has lived up to its Quisling heritage. They have appeased Islamic aggression and allow Islamic colonialists to settle their nation. Despite this, a bomb attack on the main government building occurred in Oslo today. [...]The Norwegian people need to get rid of their Leftist treasonous government and display some of that old viking blood. Appeasing Islamic aggression hasn’t work. It’s time for Norway to stand against Islamic Imperialism!

As it turned out, the terrorist – too – believed that the Norwegian government was treasonous. Now, of course, Blogmocracy too are trying to explain it all away. That also applies for Bare Naked Islam, who shows this video, and refers to their co-ideologist is merely “some guy in Norway”. The comments underneath the video are – however – revealing. The very first one reads:

thats the game for the left. when their muslim pals are murdering innocent people they are oppressed freedom fighters. when someone hits back at muslims or their collaborators they are crazy or christian or pro isreal terrorists and radicals. i don,t agree with this man shooting children to make a piont nor do i agee with the media for their hysterical prononcements. to the left wing media islam is the religion of peace and judism and christianity are the enemy. to these left wing traitors up is down down is up day is night and night is day. they have no morals or honnor, only an agenda. one not in out best interests.

A bit further down, another commenter writes:

I don’t see Breivic as a ‘lunatic neo-nazi crazed lunatic’, but I also don’t agree with his actions. I am also not denouncing violence because we are in a war. Wars are not won by writing books and posting links on the internet. Wars are won by defeating one’s enemies [...] …And for those dhimmis who did it for nothing, and are killed, I have ZERO SYMPATHY. If you don’t have enough sense to recognise an enemy, you deserve whatever you get.

And a third one mixes DDT into the story. Yes, really:

Were his actions justified? Well now, if he personally knew someone who was raped by muslims, the answer could easily be yes: IF you admit that the reason the filthy muslims are there in the first place is because of the filthy Liberals and their corrupt practices. Let me ask another question: the Liberals are responsible for the banning of DDT. This resulted in something like 40 M-I-L-L-I-O-N deaths: they make Hitler look like a bloody amateur. Now, would Anders (or anybody else) be justified in killing Liberals because of DDT? I.e. because of all the evils Liberals ARE responsible for, to this very day?

Let me underscore that this is a blog Gates of Vienna has found it worthwhile to link to. Another one they link to is the German-language blogger Manfred, who has decided that sowing the seeds of some further conspiracy theories might be a good way to get the counterjihadist scene out of trouble. One of his commenters – however – think that this is the starting shot of a European civil war, and talks about the coming “inner cleansing”. It really speaks volumes about the mindset of these people:

Sollte es so sein, wie es scheint, dann könnte dies der Auslöser für einen europaweiten Bürgerkrieg sein. Irgendwie erinnert das in der Begründung an die Tat von Paris 1938. War das seinerzeit der offizelle Grund für die nationalen Sozialisten gegen die Juden vorzugehen, so könnte dies in Oslo der Grund und die Ermutigung für internationale Sozialisten sein, gegen alles was nicht explizit links ist loszuschlagen. Dies alles auf wohl vorbereitetem Boden des “Kampfes gegen rechts”; was immer das auch sei.

Seit langem befürchte ich, daß der Befreiung Europas von äußeren Feinden und Eroberen die innere Reinigung und Klärung vorangehen muß. Die Fronten werden sich sehr schnell klären. Sozialisten aller Farben gemeinsam mit allen (!!) kulturfremden Zuwanderern gegen alles, was sich auf diesem Kontinent noch rechts davon irgendwie regt.

But it gets worse. Parts of the extreme right is actually pretty much supportive of the terrorist. The noted anti-Semite Kevin MacDonald does not belong in the same sphere as the counterjihadists. He is a classical “white nationalist”. But he has no problem naming the terrorist “a serious political thinker”, and notes:

It remains to be seen what the long term effect of his actions will be. There is certainly great revulsion at the murder of young people. However, I suppose it is possible that in the long run European elites will understand that the glorious multicultural future will not be attained without a great deal of bloodletting (including themselves and, as in this case, their children) and realize they will have to change their ways.

Norwegian journalists might find it interesting that Kevin MacDonald has been referred a number of times at the Norwegian web site honestthinking.org. They have however also pointed to criticism of his anti-Semitic views.

For another clear and utterly sickening example of support to terrorists – from a blog linked to at Gates of Vienna (they link to the bloggers old blogger.com-blog, the blogger has since moved to wordpress.com, and now considers himself a “white nationalist”), take a look at this.

Back to the self-declared counterjihadists. Interestingly, the blog of Stop the Islamisation of Europe has simply disappeared. The web site of the Norwegian variant of the group, SIAN, hasn’t. They choose to blame Islam and “the politically correct Norway” for the actions of an anti-Muslim mass murderer. A very interesting approach, although I seriously doubt it enables them to recruit many new members to their grouplet of hate. However, they also make an attempt at distancing themselves from violence.

Another blog linked to by Gates of Vienna is the blog “summer patriot, winter soldier”. While this one has not been updated in a considerable time, and thus have not covered the recent events in Norway, I think that it is worthwhile pointing out posts such as this one: the right of the individual under “locke’s” natural law concepts to wage defensive war against islam.

A short quote:

i do not speak in terms of “free speech” in this context. i speak precisely of violence and a contest of arms, in locke’s terms, putting the matter to the “judge of judges”, in order to redress grievances and exercise the right of self defense which devolves from the state of nature which was the precursor of the formation of nation states.

At the end I would like to point out this comment left on one of the Spanish “counterjihadist” blogs linked to by Gates of Vienna, La Sexta Romana. The blogger writes:

Con todo, a estas alturas de la crisis moral y económica de Occidente, creo que importa bastante poco. Si ayuda a desactivar la actual blogosfera “antiyijad” puede que incluso sea para mejor al final, porque podría hacer que los implicados se dedicaran a defender sus propios intereses, los de la cultura cristiana de occidente, la tradicional, por supuesto, en vez de fantasmagorías como “los derechos humanos”.

One of his readers leaves the following comment:

Puede que este asesino tenga parte de razón al decir que era necesario. Si este episodio se repite en distintos paises europeos, es posible que se produzca un estado de opinión alterado en una parte de la población que los acabe justificando (noticias desagradables que le den sustento se leen en esta misma web a diario) y quizás tras algunos cientos de muertos en toda Europa en una década los emigrantes musulmanes prefieran echar su suerte en países del Golfo, en Sudamérica o en Asia, y del mismo modo que se cerraron iglesias y bares en muchos paises musulmanes, acaben desapareciendo algunas mezquitas y döner kebabs.

In short, he thinks that the terrorism in Norway might be justifiable, and that the perpetrator might be right about their necessity, “if it happened in different European countries, it is possible it could create a changed [public] opinion”. Other commenters there suggest that it was a false flag operation, i.e. that the Norwegian government itself carried it out.

Update: for some reason a considerable portion of the text disappeared during an edit. This has been fixed now. Be sure to also check the comments, as some commenters have posted further examples. 28.07 – 12:08

Update:: a contact in Germany has sent me another example of terrorism support. The German blogger and speaker Michael Mannheimer – who claims to be against “any form of totalitarianism” – considers the terrorist attacks in Oslo as the starting point of the “civil war against Islamisation”. He writes:

Die westlichen Verteidiger des Islam sind Kollaborateure der islamischen Hassideologie, haben Muslime millionenfach in ihre Länder geholt und das Gesicht Europas in einem historisch beispiellosen Ausmaß bis zur Unkenntlichkeit verunstaltet. Sie haben damit den Willen der überwiegenden Mehrheit der indigenen Europäer vergewaltigt und sind daher die wahren Verantwortlichen für das Norwegen-Massaker.

A somewhat rough translation:

The Western defenders of Islam are collaborators of the Islamic ideology of hatred, have fetched millions of Muslims into their countries and have disfigured the face of Europe in a manner without historical precedent. Thus they have raped the wishes of vast majority of indigenous Europeans, and they are the true culprits of the massacre in Norway

And here is a conference in Germany, where Mannheimer and Robert Spencer was both amongst the speakers. (28.07, 22:00)

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